Needs? Not me!
March 20, 2009 at 11:05 am | In buddhism, family, fiona, needs, psychology, roles, self-care, therapy | 2 CommentsTags: needs
by Fiona
Yeah… didn’t even know about those things. My biggest surprise was getting a list of emotional needs! (I got the list from my first therapist because I didn’t know what she was talking about.) Whoa, this one backed me up. I had yearned for those things – to be seen, acknowledged, played with. I had put them under my “weaknesses” list.
I’ve kind of taken to this “getting my needs met” stuff. Seeing a list on a sheet of paper was almost like the groceries that i’d been missing. It was OK to have these; in fact, everyone did and I had a right to get them. Somehow seeing it written in a book or on paper took away the “zing” or shame of wanting these things. Because someone other than me said it was OK. Just wanting or needing them myself – I paid NO attention to that.
I realized that my anger (that I never aknowledged) was very related to not getting my needs met. I had chronically unmet needs and it made me cranky!
I still have a very hard time asking for what I need or want. There are certain people, places and times when i can ask, but others are hard. I’ll pay attention to that.
Now, what about this selfless, doing for others is the greatest good thing. Is this OK as long as I get my needs met. This is where i’m getting confused. In my Buddhist readings, selflessly doing for others is the way to go.
Gotta go and get dinner for my family. —— Isn’t this the woman’s story? I do derive pleasure from doing for my family. When is this pathological? I guess as long as I don’t ignore myself. I do know that I can avoid doing things I need to do with the thought that i’m doing for others.
I can relate to the “my compulsions are my reward.” Reward for what? For ignoring my needs. For getting through the day, usually.
Wiggly Toes: Shame vs. Kindness to Oneself
January 17, 2008 at 3:55 pm | In body/mind, change, coping strategies, eeabee, self-care, shame, support | Leave a CommentTags: addiction, body/mind, change, compulsion, coping, kindness, recovery, self-criticism, shame, toes, yoga
by eeabee
–this first part is also posted on my individual blog, sparks in the night, but the end is some additional writing that has to do with the shame aspect that we’ll probably be talking about a lot here–
Yoga has gotten me more aware of my toes and what they want like and need, and for some reason I can feel all nice about them and want to do those things (stretching them out and rubbing them after a long run).
A photo from hikejmt’s WoYoPracMo posts, more of which are here: http://woyopracmo.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=l9ykcnwlo6hl
This isn’t something that always comes easily to me–feeling okay about myself needing or wanting things (especially on the emotional/psyche level), but this seems like a starting point, something to work from. Maybe it’s possible to start there and work to the things that are harder for me.
I was talking to some fellow recovery people yesterday about the ways in which we seem to jump from large addiction/compulsion to a multitude of little ones (and less harmful ones, so this is no small improvement, and it’s really a matter of going from lethal to non-lethal). And I think that part of it (there are many many many aspects, a real manystranded tangle) is that we (women especially maybe, but perhaps not exclusively, but this is who I was talking with and about) often don’t feel we have the right to try to get our desires and needs met, and addiction/compulsions can be a little way of compensating, of feeling like we’re giving ourselves something over here on the side when you’re not looking. It’s not usually something that’s actually good for us, but it’s also a way of preserving or recognizing our right to have wishes and needs. Now if we could all “just” quit killing ourselves our driving ourselves crazy with this technique.
But this tending to parts of the body that want or need something seems a little more accessible to me than the whole treating oneself as deserving of existence. My reflex is to perceive myself as inherently wrong, wrongness incarnate, fundamentally faulty. But I don’t do this as much with the physical part of myself. “As much” I say because I do not always feel thrilled about whatever flaws I happen to be deciding that I have at a given time (it varies, and I think it’s almost arbitrary).
But I am going to stop writing now because my toes are saying they want to wiggle and not only that but they want my full attention as they do.
Okay, I’m back from the toe-wiggling and want to add some thoughts on how shame fits into all this.
I didn’t think much about shame until recently, which is kind of funny since it’s pretty much the core of all this difficulty with needs. It’s the feeling that I shouldn’t have any needs, even some of the most basic human ones, and certainly anything that has to do with relying on others or being vulnerable. And incoveniently (or not!) I seem to be quite open and vulnerable, not icy/thick-skinned. So it’s a recipe for difficulty at least and disaster ultimately. But it’s also a recipe for changing because I can’t not change.
Shame tells us we shouldn’t want and need things, that we have to pretend we don’t, and it even sometimes makes it hard for us to recognize what we need and want. It’s quite disorganizing. It involves a lot of nastiness in terms of the self-talk that runs on (and on!) in one’s head, all the time just about. It’s appalling, and I say things to myself I wouldn’t dream of saying to others, as if I’m somehow different (worse) than everyone else, not quite human. But somehow I held onto the feeling that all of this isn’t right. And honestly, my compulsions are part of how I did that, I think. This may not be a popular view, but I think it’s true. That doesn’t mean I want to keep being enslaved to them if I can help it; it doesn’t mean I still need them in the same way. But it’s a reason to forgive myself for having them.
Putting my surfboard in the water
January 15, 2008 at 4:38 pm | In Tai Chi, body/mind, change, coping strategies, fiona, resources, self-care, shame | 1 CommentTags: change, energy, life, shame, Tai Chi, therapy, vortex, water
by Fiona
I really like “vortex surfers” as the name of this blog – for all the reasons in the intro and some of my own. The vortex is such a great metaphor. Being pulled down into the shame spiral is the reason I’m here on this blog , doing this work. I’ve been in therapy for 15 years searching and trying to pick up new tools (surfboards) at first just to stay afloat and now to stay afloat and be skillful about it.
The vortex can turn on it’s side and be the spiral of my life changing. The ups and downs, the forward and backward steps – the inexorable pull forward toward growth and change.
Tornados have always fascinated me.
And the surfing part… I love the water. I visualize water in so much of my spiritual musings – waves especially. From there I can go into the waves vs. particles of quantum physics. I have believed in waves for many years.
When I do Tai Chi I visualize the wave of energy washing over me and as then ebbing as I deliver energy back to the earth.
I literally get in the water 3x a week – it’s my favorite workout and one of my favorite places to ponder these big ideas. I snorkel and scuba dive.
The weightlessness in water allows me to dance and move every which-a-way. Movements impossible in gravity are easy in the water.
I won’t even start on John from Cincinatti! I’ll go there another day.
I look forward to visiting these topics many times. There is so much depth to these images; they go to the origin and the root of life. It even sounds like a good song title. So… I want to be a vortex surfer.
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