Searches that Lead to this Vortex

April 28, 2008 at 3:57 am | In anxiety, change, eeabee, needs, pain, shame, support, vortex | No Comments
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by eeabee (who is now “eeabee of the 26.2 miles”)

These are some of the searches that have lead people to our blog.  Some of which are apparently from fellow silly souls, and others from fellow sufferers.  Either way, we can only hope you find what you need, or a link or idea for where else to look, or even just a little company.  

wiggly toes           

toe of shame           

toe wiggling habit           

kindness to oneself           

“trauma reenactment”

mrs vortex           

the feeling of being in a vortex           

vortex in human body           

always feel shame           

why do my toes wiggle           

body memories           

wiggly toe

what are body memories           

feeling wiggley anxiety           

vortex

“body memories”           

toe wiggle

vortex as metaphor           

shame vs fear           

vortex healing depression anxiety           

shame and self care           

blogs about shame on oneself           

trauma vortex           

heart get suck down a vortex

Some of these, the toe/wiggly ones and mrs vortex especially, make me smile, and some are things I’ve no doubt gone out searching for myself.  There’s a lot of this kind of pain out there, and it’s not the kind of pain we can live with alone, especially not when the heart gets sucked down a vortex, as it does sometimes.  

Vortex Imagery from Mr. Fancy Poetry Guy (Yeats, in this Case)

April 15, 2008 at 3:18 am | In eeabee, family, fear, relationships, shame, vortex, writing | No Comments
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Turning and turning in the widening gyre

The falcon cannot hear the falconer;

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold. . .

Here the vortex is out in the world, unleashed–maybe a different thing than the internal ones of individuals–but no, I think not.  I think maybe that they are all the same thing, all part of each other. Individual shame spirals don’t come from nowhere, they come from other individuals, from families, from culture–from all the systems we move in, all the systems that can house a vortex.  Some of us just seem to feel them deeply.  Some of us try not to pass them on, and so they stay with us.

Shame Binds or/and a Cliffside Dance Party

February 25, 2008 at 4:02 am | In change, coping strategies, eeabee, fear, needs, psychology, shame, trauma, vortex, work, writing | 2 Comments
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by eeabee

I’m reading John Bradshaw’s Healing the Shame that Binds You, and I see that he says: “To be shame-bound means that whenever you feel any feeling, need or drive, you immediately feel ashamed” (32).

Oh dear.

This does seem a bit of an awkward way to go through life, a bit inconvenient.

And so it is. I find things like this helpful though, not to weigh myself down with the enormity of an issue like this to be point of being immobilized, matted down, stuck to the floor, but because it makes me realize how huge of a deal it is to be able to move at all. This could become overly self-congratulatory, and probably already has, but there may be worse things. Clearly I like (and fear, but also like) attention, or I wouldn’t be writing here, so there’s no sense it denying it, not really. Even less so, if I admit that my job involves me having regular almost captive audiences, which I do admit, because it does.

Equally distressing are these quotes: “As each new shaming experience takes place, a new verbal imprint and visual image form a scene that becomes attached to the existing ones to form collages of shaming memories” (32); “As the years go on, very little is needed to trigger these collages of shame memories.  A word, a similar facial expression or a scene can set it off.  Sometimes an external stimulus is not even necessary” (33).  A whole big webby network in which a disturbance (or not even) in one spot triggers the whole thing to go haywire. And so it does. Not always–not like it used to. And I was just about to write that with this collage/network thing, the situation is as likely to worsen over time as it is to get better, and I’ve experienced some of that, some of it lately. But I’ve experienced the opposite too. It has taken great labor to get this far, which, if you haven’t gathered this already, is a bit sad considering how much room there is for improvement, but it’s more dazzling to think about where I came from. End-stage addiction, for one thing. And I do mean end stage. Which is where I now live, poised delicately above the brink I was just about to plummet from. See, I’ve been starting to think that a little melodrama–or a lot, it’s not really something that works in subtle accents–has some things to be said for it. It’s not actually that I’m exaggerating, but my prose is a bit purple at times, juicy-like, a bit oversaturated. Overdecorated with swooning-couches. But it’s such pleasure to overdo a bit like this, and it lets me play with something I certainly wouldn’t be able to wrestle down without getting myself killed in the process. But dancing with my awareness of where and how I live–on this edge of disaster, having stepped a few feet back, but I don’t think it’s possible to get far–that lightens the feeling of living here. It reminds me there is pleasure and lightness even here. Or shall I say (Oh I shall, I shall. . .) “especially here.” “Especially here” it is then, because while it sometimes seems intolerable and too scary here, sometimes it seems just as right to wonder what could possibly be more surprising and exciting?

And there’s never a problem with boredom.

Wrongy-wrong-wronginess. But at least there’s sleep.

February 11, 2008 at 4:23 am | In body image, depression, eeabee, fatigue, self-criticism, shame | No Comments
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by eeabee

I’ve been fighting with some serious fatigue and some gloominess–some thyroidy problems, methinks, which makes it easier to observe a little rather than getting totally sucked under and in. It’s a little more identifiable, and there’s no anhedonia–the loss of pleasure in usually pleasurable things business, which makes depression so hard to fight because with the anhedonia there doesn’t seem to be any point since everything’s flat or icky anyway. So that’s not here, just the droopy droopiness and getting overwhelmed and falling asleep and telling myself terrible things about myself (wrong size, wrong shape, wrong comments, wrong silence, wrong ideas, wrongy-wrong-wrong).

But it’s been possible to separate from those thoughts and symptoms a bit more than sometimes–not possible to stop them, or stop having those thoughts, but more possible not to add to them by taking them too much to heart. It’s not so easy not to take one’s own thoughts too much to heart, but I find it’s absolutely necessary for survival sometimes.

But I think I’ll stop writing now because it seems to be rather tiring.

Look Up

February 5, 2008 at 2:59 pm | In anxiety, body image, body/mind, change, depression, exercise, mastgirl, shame, therapy | 2 Comments
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By mastgirl

Something new to work on, something important I think. I started working with a trainer at the YMCA - I got ten sessions for Christmas. I am excited about this because I really want to get myself back in shape and also to fight off the wanting to stay in bed part of depression. When I was working with my trainer, I noticed that she kept telling me to look up. Other than not wanting to see that other person in the mirror who looks twice my size, I’m not sure why I look down so much. Even when we’re not in front of a mirror I hear that gentle “look up”.

I have since paid more attention to this and I look down A LOT. I’m often uncomfortable making eye contact, even with my therapist….especially with my therapist. If a stranger says “hi” to me, I say “hi” then immediately look down or away. What the heck? What do I think my therapist, a stranger, or anyone else is going to see? Is it just a bad habit? We’ve decided that some is habit and that it serves to add to my feeling of isolation…to not connect, not engage. Of course the old shame word comes into play as well. I know what I thought they’d see when I was a child, but I’m an adult….I’m tired of being ashamed.

Now that I’m more aware of this habit, I plan to work on changing it. I want to see where I’m going as I look ahead, look up.

“I Suckery” and Body Memories of the Non-Traumatic Variety

February 3, 2008 at 2:20 pm | In anxiety, body/mind, change, eeabee, self-criticism, shame, trauma, vortex, work, yoga | No Comments
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[I posted this on sparks in the night also, but I'm revisiting and adding a bit here.]

They capture shame, but also the joy of movement and the shape of the world.

I feel like writing about movement today, no thinkies. Those haven’t been going so well, lots of “I failed” at this or that or “I suck” in various ways. Some of it must be fictional–it seems like one person can only suck in so many ways at a time–one would think.  I seem to be deteriorating a bit in this area, regressing some, for the first time since I got sober.  Maybe it’s just a dip (if not, I’m in trouble), but it’s strange to have so much of the I-suckery going on in my head, like it always used to be.  I got all worked up over another work thing, a student complaining about my appalling cruelty (Note:  I don’t think this is one of my qualities, in truth) to all sorts of higher-ups.  Luckily, she lied about them failing to respond to her at all (they had responded to her) so that helps my situation.  And I think I had handled it all well and had a record thereto, but I had some difficulty not taking it in, not taking it to heart.  This was a constant problem before and had gotten better.  I guess revisiting the “I suckery” and finding it startlingly unpleasant means some change had occured, which is good, but it does drag at my feet, threatens to pull me down deep.

So no thinkies.  Movement, territory, rain.  I went running the other day, 16 miles I’d guess, WITH HILLS. And I do mean hills–there are some big ones where I was. They actually make it more interesting, more of a journey with different terrains than some sort of tiresome grind. It was a bit moist, which is to say raining for much of the time, but not so cold. I ran through some semi-rural areas, with horses peering at me as if puzzled by my going by, and saw some grey and soggy but lovely views.

Yoga-wise I’ve been mostly keeping up at least some basic yoga poses/stretches each day, sometimes more, sometimes less, but more than I was in the habit of doing before WoYoPracMo. I do definitely notice some new looseness/mobile-ness that is strange with such as escalation of running going on at the same time–must be the yoga. I’ve been to some new classes, including my first all-ashtanga all the time class which was great. It kicked my butt, but it was great.

Dynamic, fiery and vigorous, intense. The first yoga instructor whose classes got me hooked had an ashtanga influence to his flows and poses, so it reminded me a bit of when I first started. That was such an intense time–I was quitting drinking, learning all kinds of new things, getting overwhelmed, living life again. They say the body remembers trauma, and so it does. It remembers other things too. It remembers renewal, the joy of movement, the pain not of injury but of aching muscles being stimulated to develop, the forms it has shaped itself to, the rhythms it has followed.

One of Those Days

January 25, 2008 at 10:50 pm | In anxiety, mastgirl, self-criticism, shame, tizzy, work | 4 Comments
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by mastgirl

Well, here it goes. Today is one of those days. Where waking up is torture due to being slammed with anxiety before I even open my eyes, and it just seems to get worse from there. I’m rattled from the beginning with a whole day stretching out before me. I’m then alone for part of the day so the part of my brain that is struggling to calm itself has to compete with the part that seems to just want to do me in with the thinking, thinking, thinking….ugh. I do think that part of this anxiety is related to my unlimited ability to put things off that need to be done…that dreaded “P” word. I see one thing that needs to be done and it leads to another, then another until I’m surrounded. It’s not that I see one thing then do it, then see another…it’s that I almost see them all at once…it’s that I just keep adding more to the to do list in my head until it’s too much. All of the chatter in my head about just what kind of person I am is absolutely exhausting. It’s so easy…think Nike -just do it…please do it.

So, I either sit down and open the computer or wander from room to room until I am really in a tizzy. I want to focus on one thing at a time…just one and I want it to be crystal clear…simple. Maybe that’s it, I just want life to be crystal clear and simple…is that too much to ask?

I Object, I Protest, It’s not Fair, If it’s Going to be like that I’m Taking My Toys and Going Home.

January 25, 2008 at 5:44 am | In depression, eeabee, fear, rejection, shame, support, work | No Comments
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by eeabee

So. My friends here reassembled me after falling apart over various things the other day, and I’ve got a new project for you all already! The previous project is a little hard for me to untangle/piece apart, but the basic idea is that I keep having the experience of feeling some trust (for people like my spouse and therapist) and being startled to find that I’m feeling hurt by them, while at the same time knowing they don’t want to hurt me, thus making me get all confused and feeling like my cat looks when he’s running in circles after his tail. So that’s been a whole big thing lately.

And I really felt that this was plenty of this sort of thing thank you very much.

But (complain, complain) yesterday I was back at work for a whole new batch of students and classes and fairly wound up because I was so reminded of last spring, which is when my father died and everything was just a big boggy mess. My employer overheard me talking to a friend about house-hunting, and I live a ways from work and my employer does not appear to like of this situation, so she did this whole pull-me-into-her-office-close-the-door thing, accompanied by some very alarming comments. It was very out-of-the-blue and strangely without context. I handled all this with extreme dignity, of course, and burst into tears (and I do not cry glamorously but blotchily and puffily). Turns out that she wasn’t saying anything new at all and hadn’t meant to be threatening (it had sounded to me like I was on the brink of job-losing), just worried that I wasn’t getting to know some of the people I work with well enough because that might have effects on decisions they make about me in the future or something. Not quite how it came out initially, and certainly not to my ears. I had felt more like an abject creature halfway firing-squad victim and the other half small child who’s been sent to the principal’s office and is imagining catastrophic consequences awaiting. The said spouse and therapist helped me to not freak out any more than I already had–nice twist isn’t it? Maybe the next thing will be my employer helping me deal with whoever the next situation is who gets me all confused. I’m not quite ready for that though!

Wiggly Toes: Shame vs. Kindness to Oneself

January 17, 2008 at 3:55 pm | In body/mind, change, coping strategies, eeabee, self-care, shame, support | No Comments
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by eeabee

–this first part is also posted on my individual blog, sparks in the night, but the end is some additional writing that has to do with the shame aspect that we’ll probably be talking about a lot here–

Yoga has gotten me more aware of my toes and what they want like and need, and for some reason I can feel all nice about them and want to do those things (stretching them out and rubbing them after a long run).

A photo from hikejmt’s WoYoPracMo posts, more of which are here: http://woyopracmo.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=l9ykcnwlo6hl

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This isn’t something that always comes easily to me–feeling okay about myself needing or wanting things (especially on the emotional/psyche level), but this seems like a starting point, something to work from. Maybe it’s possible to start there and work to the things that are harder for me.

I was talking to some fellow recovery people yesterday about the ways in which we seem to jump from large addiction/compulsion to a multitude of little ones (and less harmful ones, so this is no small improvement, and it’s really a matter of going from lethal to non-lethal). And I think that part of it (there are many many many aspects, a real manystranded tangle) is that we (women especially maybe, but perhaps not exclusively, but this is who I was talking with and about) often don’t feel we have the right to try to get our desires and needs met, and addiction/compulsions can be a little way of compensating, of feeling like we’re giving ourselves something over here on the side when you’re not looking. It’s not usually something that’s actually good for us, but it’s also a way of preserving or recognizing our right to have wishes and needs. Now if we could all “just” quit killing ourselves our driving ourselves crazy with this technique.

But this tending to parts of the body that want or need something seems a little more accessible to me than the whole treating oneself as deserving of existence. My reflex is to perceive myself as inherently wrong, wrongness incarnate, fundamentally faulty. But I don’t do this as much with the physical part of myself. “As much” I say because I do not always feel thrilled about whatever flaws I happen to be deciding that I have at a given time (it varies, and I think it’s almost arbitrary).

But I am going to stop writing now because my toes are saying they want to wiggle and not only that but they want my full attention as they do.

Okay, I’m back from the toe-wiggling and want to add some thoughts on how shame fits into all this.

I didn’t think much about shame until recently, which is kind of funny since it’s pretty much the core of all this difficulty with needs. It’s the feeling that I shouldn’t have any needs, even some of the most basic human ones, and certainly anything that has to do with relying on others or being vulnerable. And incoveniently (or not!) I seem to be quite open and vulnerable, not icy/thick-skinned. So it’s a recipe for difficulty at least and disaster ultimately. But it’s also a recipe for changing because I can’t not change.

Shame tells us we shouldn’t want and need things, that we have to pretend we don’t, and it even sometimes makes it hard for us to recognize what we need and want. It’s quite disorganizing. It involves a lot of nastiness in terms of the self-talk that runs on (and on!) in one’s head, all the time just about. It’s appalling, and I say things to myself I wouldn’t dream of saying to others, as if I’m somehow different (worse) than everyone else, not quite human. But somehow I held onto the feeling that all of this isn’t right. And honestly, my compulsions are part of how I did that, I think. This may not be a popular view, but I think it’s true. That doesn’t mean I want to keep being enslaved to them if I can help it; it doesn’t mean I still need them in the same way. But it’s a reason to forgive myself for having them.

Putting my surfboard in the water

January 15, 2008 at 4:38 pm | In Tai Chi, body/mind, change, coping strategies, fiona, resources, self-care, shame | 1 Comment
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by Fiona

I really like “vortex surfers” as the name of this blog - for all the reasons in the intro and some of my own. The vortex is such a great metaphor. Being pulled down into the shame spiral is the reason I’m here on this blog , doing this work. I’ve been in therapy for 15 years searching and trying to pick up new tools (surfboards) at first just to stay afloat and now to stay afloat and be skillful about it.

The vortex can turn on it’s side and be the spiral of my life changing. The ups and downs, the forward and backward steps - the inexorable pull forward toward growth and change.

Tornados have always fascinated me.

And the surfing part… I love the water. I visualize water in so much of my spiritual musings - waves especially. From there I can go into the waves vs. particles of quantum physics. I have believed in waves for many years.

When I do Tai Chi I visualize the wave of energy washing over me and as then ebbing as I deliver energy back to the earth.

I literally get in the water 3x a week - it’s my favorite workout and one of my favorite places to ponder these big ideas. I snorkel and scuba dive.

The weightlessness in water allows me to dance and move every which-a-way. Movements impossible in gravity are easy in the water.

I won’t even start on John from Cincinatti! I’ll go there another day.

I look forward to visiting these topics many times. There is so much depth to these images; they go to the origin and the root of life. It even sounds like a good song title. So… I want to be a vortex surfer.

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