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	<description>--how we brave the vortex and heal together, because it's no place to enter into alone--</description>
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		<title>Comment on Needs? Not me! by Catatonic Kid</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/needs-not-me/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Catatonic Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get confused at the same point. i think maybe because selfless is my default. not in a martyr-ish way, most of the time. just in an &quot;it didn&#039;t even occur to me to think of myself&quot; way. most of the time it genuinely doesn&#039;t. so i keep reading the Buddhist stuff and i realise that unless i get that anger under control, and those needs met then any good karma i build up gets undone right away because the anger eats it all up -- even if it&#039;s only anger at myself. or maybe worst of all like that i&#039;m not sure.

and i start to think about how selfless really does mean without self. it isn&#039;t about giving things up that we need. we still &#039;cherish&#039; the form. we don&#039;t give up on that but we do notice with awareness that what we&#039;re doing is always without self because it&#039;s an illusion anyway. a transitory thing, just like our needs. that doesn&#039;t mean we ignore them, though, yeah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get confused at the same point. i think maybe because selfless is my default. not in a martyr-ish way, most of the time. just in an &#8220;it didn&#8217;t even occur to me to think of myself&#8221; way. most of the time it genuinely doesn&#8217;t. so i keep reading the Buddhist stuff and i realise that unless i get that anger under control, and those needs met then any good karma i build up gets undone right away because the anger eats it all up &#8212; even if it&#8217;s only anger at myself. or maybe worst of all like that i&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>and i start to think about how selfless really does mean without self. it isn&#8217;t about giving things up that we need. we still &#8216;cherish&#8217; the form. we don&#8217;t give up on that but we do notice with awareness that what we&#8217;re doing is always without self because it&#8217;s an illusion anyway. a transitory thing, just like our needs. that doesn&#8217;t mean we ignore them, though, yeah?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perfectionism by mastgirl</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/perfectionism/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>mastgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No drivel there at all.  I love that live &quot;a flawed person trying to be flawless&quot;.
I think I&#039;d get a lot more done without that perfectionism bug hanging around.
Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No drivel there at all.  I love that live &#8220;a flawed person trying to be flawless&#8221;.<br />
I think I&#8217;d get a lot more done without that perfectionism bug hanging around.<br />
Good post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perfectionism by eeabee</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/perfectionism/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>eeabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray!  I know it&#039;s hard to start writing and I can certainly hear that here.  I don&#039;t hear and drivel!  

And you know, I think you&#039;re already changing in the time I&#039;ve known you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray!  I know it&#8217;s hard to start writing and I can certainly hear that here.  I don&#8217;t hear and drivel!  </p>
<p>And you know, I think you&#8217;re already changing in the time I&#8217;ve known you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Needs? Not me! by eeabee</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/needs-not-me/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>eeabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happened to me too in a way--I got one of those lists of emotional needs and the list implies that these are normal human and therefore acceptable needs--what a shocking revelation.  I don&#039;t always believe that any needs are okay (for me) so maybe I need to see if I can dig up that list and revisit it.  Thanks for this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happened to me too in a way&#8211;I got one of those lists of emotional needs and the list implies that these are normal human and therefore acceptable needs&#8211;what a shocking revelation.  I don&#8217;t always believe that any needs are okay (for me) so maybe I need to see if I can dig up that list and revisit it.  Thanks for this post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shame Binds or/and a Cliffside Dance Party by eeabee</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/shame-binds-orand-a-cliffside-dance-party/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>eeabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your encouraging comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your encouraging comment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shame Binds or/and a Cliffside Dance Party by Karen Halls</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/shame-binds-orand-a-cliffside-dance-party/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Halls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your site on google blog search and read a few of your other posts.  Keep up the good work.  Just added your RSS feed to my feed reader.  Look forward to reading more from you.

Karen Halls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your site on google blog search and read a few of your other posts.  Keep up the good work.  Just added your RSS feed to my feed reader.  Look forward to reading more from you.</p>
<p>Karen Halls</p>
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		<title>Comment on The self in its unity and boundedness and other fanciful myths by mastgirl</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/the-self-in-its-unity-and-boundedness-and-other-fanciful-myths/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>mastgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your writing.  The line that &quot;a self may not know it can announce boundaries, that it can claim anything at all, or even that it can speak&quot; is so true, and I especially like the next paragraph on coming to terms with this and &quot;learning to take notice&quot;...to find a voice, but with compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your writing.  The line that &#8220;a self may not know it can announce boundaries, that it can claim anything at all, or even that it can speak&#8221; is so true, and I especially like the next paragraph on coming to terms with this and &#8220;learning to take notice&#8221;&#8230;to find a voice, but with compassion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on One of Those Days by mastgirl</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/one-of-those-days/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>mastgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your thoughts.  Boy, it sounds like you know where I&#039;m coming from!  Maybe you&#039;re right about the drama.  I&#039;d rather believe that than that I&#039;m lazy...I think.  I want to get used to not being in crisis mode...that gets so draining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thoughts.  Boy, it sounds like you know where I&#8217;m coming from!  Maybe you&#8217;re right about the drama.  I&#8217;d rather believe that than that I&#8217;m lazy&#8230;I think.  I want to get used to not being in crisis mode&#8230;that gets so draining.</p>
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		<title>Comment on One of Those Days by jaye</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/one-of-those-days/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>jaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the overwhelming thoughts, the thinking that won&#039;t stop before I go to sleep, the thinking that I can hide from when I am awake and keep busy.  The big &quot;p&quot; word - I know that, too. Nothing gets done until it is a crisis and then I can worry about that, too.  To find the Nike thing - that would be great.  Just do it!  Somehow it doesn&#039;t feel as good without a bunch of drama though. Maybe I need drama to stay real -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the overwhelming thoughts, the thinking that won&#8217;t stop before I go to sleep, the thinking that I can hide from when I am awake and keep busy.  The big &#8220;p&#8221; word &#8211; I know that, too. Nothing gets done until it is a crisis and then I can worry about that, too.  To find the Nike thing &#8211; that would be great.  Just do it!  Somehow it doesn&#8217;t feel as good without a bunch of drama though. Maybe I need drama to stay real -</p>
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		<title>Comment on Look Up by mastgirl</title>
		<link>http://vortexsurfers.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/look-up/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>mastgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your comment.  I like the sound of &quot;yoga of the heart&quot;....sounds like something I should look in to.  I want to be more open, less defensive/closed.
I think that if you&#039;re going to be addicted to something that exercise is one of the better things to be addicted to...I&#039;m not there yet, but hope to get back to that point soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your comment.  I like the sound of &#8220;yoga of the heart&#8221;&#8230;.sounds like something I should look in to.  I want to be more open, less defensive/closed.<br />
I think that if you&#8217;re going to be addicted to something that exercise is one of the better things to be addicted to&#8230;I&#8217;m not there yet, but hope to get back to that point soon.</p>
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